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 11 
 on: May 26, 2014, 11:40:42 
Started by Goliath - Last post by Goliath
Some new coverversions of Kanno Songs Smiley

Unreleased Arjuna Song -"Clouds"
http://youtu.be/UNvm9ukC8Qg


Omega Blue
http://youtu.be/l6XnQ2cK6pk


 12 
 on: May 26, 2014, 09:12:56 
Started by roxfan - Last post by kbmurphy
Picture of Kanno in newspaper article in this YJA:

http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h189131012#enlargeimg

Anyone care to translate?

 13 
 on: May 18, 2014, 15:28:04 
Started by misssakura - Last post by kbmurphy
I’d love for you to bring this up and see what is said about it.

 14 
 on: May 18, 2014, 11:10:14 
Started by misssakura - Last post by nitrus
I have been a very big fan, admirer and worshipper of YK for about five or six years now. My admiration of her was never diminished even by these plagiarism allegations – the immensely diverse body of work she has been able to put together over the years is remarkable and even if we removed all of the songs which some suggest are copies of something else, we would still be left with one of the most talented and prolific composers around.

I am a musician/composer myself and I have to admit: sometimes I cannot imagine being able to create meaningful music without first being inspired by somebody else’s music – and not only inspired by its feeling and mood, but also often by actual harmonies, structures or arrangements, at least in the initial phases of developing an idea. The point is being able to take it somewhere else, to the point where all or almost all of the initial inspirations have been replaced by something yours.

The vast majority of YK’s songs that bear a resemblance to something else are in this basket, or just a little bit beyond it. A prime example, which I don’t think anybody has brought up yet, is the final orchestral piece of the Smooth in the Shell CD. It was probably inspired by this track called Morning in Montana by Don Harper:
http://open.spotify.com/track/6CRQKnop5ZY1UZG3KwmgIT
Both are beautiful and gentle pieces. The opening is almost the same, and I leave the legitimacy of its lifting to your judgment, but Yoko takes the song to a very different place eventually. If she had altered the opening a bit more, nobody would have suspected a thing.  I repeat, most of the songs discussed here are a very similar story. All composers, apart from maybe a handful of the crème de la crème, just work this way at least some of the time, deal with it. I think Yoko is just being more honest about it, since she does not try to forcefully hide her inspirations.

That being said, there are a few examples of really shameless ripping off, such as Cloud 9, Cyberbird, Sniper’s Theme and some others, of course. I strongly believe the original artists must have been communicated with and compensated. There have been lawsuits about much less obvious inspirations and many have been won, whether they were justified or not. It’s very unlikely none of the original artists never learned about this and never pursued legal action.

As much as I am intrigued by this, as a listener I don’t really mind or care. Yoko is a far better composer, arranger and producer than most of the artists she might have copied from and her songs are mostly far superior to their inspirations (exceptions include Craig Armstrong for example, who is a genius composer and arranger and his songs are at least as wonderful as Yoko’s “versions”). If it weren’t for YK, I would not have known those songs anyway. So it’s really a question of ethics and artistic integrity, which is Yoko’s personal matter; and a question of law, which is only between YK and the original composers.

Not too long ago, I have become good friends with somebody with whom YK has collaborated very closely and very frequently. I don’t want to brag and therefore I am not disclosing his/her name and identity. I don’t want to push the YK angle between us too much, but do you think one day I should open this topic and ask him/her about this? Maybe we can get answers, but do we want to know? I’m not sure, really.

 15 
 on: May 13, 2014, 18:18:20 
Started by Yyrkoon - Last post by kbmurphy
Great job!!

 16 
 on: May 10, 2014, 00:10:39 
Started by Yyrkoon - Last post by Yyrkoon
@mr. Pillow ~: It seems the private message don't work well, if you didn't receive anything, can you send a mail here? worldwide.yokokanno@gmail.com
I'll ask you a username and a valid mail and I'll create a translator account on the website!

 17 
 on: May 06, 2014, 21:15:15 
Started by Yyrkoon - Last post by Yyrkoon
@PerdeskiCloyn: Thank you!

@mr. Pillow ~: Thanks! I just sent you a private message on this board asking you a few things to set up your worldwide YK account.

 18 
 on: May 04, 2014, 04:10:21 
Started by Yyrkoon - Last post by mr. Pillow ~
 Shocked this is truly impressive! Cheesy Congrats on your hard work!

I could provide an Italian translation if needed. Smiley

 19 
 on: May 03, 2014, 16:53:02 
Started by Yyrkoon - Last post by PerdeskiCloyn
Impressive website. You're doing an AMAZING job. Thank you for your hard work!

 20 
 on: May 01, 2014, 01:26:17 
Started by Yyrkoon - Last post by Yyrkoon
@Goliath: Let's talk about this next week, I'm starting my golden week now and returns next Wednesday!

@Nitrus: Thanks, I'll do my best! Wink

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